🇺🇦 Could the Conflict go Nuclear?
This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler
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🗓️ 8 April 2022
⏱️ 29 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | I'm Arthur Snell. A major war is taking place on the European continent with Russia's |
| 0:07.3 | invasion of Ukraine, bringing you a series of special episodes to help you understand |
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| 0:50.7 | in the showrooms. Hello and welcome back to Doomsday Watch. I'm delighted to be joined today |
| 0:58.1 | by Professor Laura Considine of the School of Politics and International Studies at the University |
| 1:03.8 | of Leeds. Laura is an expert on global nuclear politics, nuclear disarmament and the history |
| 1:09.4 | of arms control. Laura, welcome. Thank you. Laura, it is perhaps unfortunate that your area of |
| 1:16.4 | expertise has a shot back up the agenda in recent weeks, particularly after a parent saber |
| 1:24.9 | rattling by Russia, indicating that they were putting their nuclear forces on a state of |
| 1:31.0 | higher readiness. So that's the context in which we're speaking, but I wanted to start with the |
| 1:36.6 | kind of the big picture. So perhaps you could start by just describing to listeners which are |
| 1:44.2 | the current nuclear arms states and to what extent are they under overarching international |
| 1:50.6 | agreements that govern the ways in which they use and manage those weapons? Sure. So at the moment |
| 1:58.2 | there are nine nuclear arms states in the world, the US, Russia, the UK, France, China and then |
| 2:06.9 | also North Korea, India, Pakistan and Israel. Israel maintains a position of opacity on its nuclear |
| 2:15.7 | weapons, whether it doesn't confirm nor deny that it has them, but we do take Israel as a nuclear |
| 2:22.2 | arms state. So since these weapons have come into existence, there has developed a kind of a web |
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