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Coming back here on Sports Talk Chicago with Joe Christopoulos here on WLS, AM 890.

I want to thank George Offman for coming on the show.

Man, he has been around. I've been listening to him since I was a little kid covering the Blackhawks, covering the Bulls for the score, WBBM, WGN Radio. A wonderful voice and a great perspective for what's going on with the Chicago Bears now, because this is something that's been going on with the Chicago Bears for a long time.

All right, just a couple of thoughts from our conversation. One, I just want to go back to the Trace Armstrong factor.

For those that might have missed it in part one, I'm going to be very honest with you, this is a pet theory of mine.

But just like a lot of things in business, this comes down to the people that you know. When we talk about the McCaskey family, when we talk about George McCasky specifically,

quote unquote, I am not a fan, I'm not a football evaluator, I am just a fan.

So ever since Jerry Angelo, there has been a feeling that the Chicago Bears from a football

perspective have been wandering in the wilderness a little bit,

to the point that they've had to hire outside help,

namely someone like Ernie a coursey,

to come in and give the Chicago Bears recommendations

for people that they should hire.

In the last coaching cycle,

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