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The Bunker – News without the nonsense

Could Russia revolt against Putin?

The Bunker – News without the nonsense

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Politics, Government, Society & Culture, News

4.61K Ratings

🗓️ 2 November 2022

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

The worse Russia’s invasion of Ukraine goes, the more Putin doubles down. Is he truly unhinged? And could his citizens turn on him? Marc Berenson, senior lecturer at the Russia Institute at King’s College London and the author of Taxes and Trust: From Coercion to Compliance in Poland, Russia and Ukraine, talks to Justin Quirk about Putin’s changing worldview, why the President sees Eastern Europe as a “massive DMZ”, and if the Russian people really support his regime.  “The truth is that Putin is rational – but with completely different preferences to ours in the West.”  “The best outcome for Putin from this war would be him going to jail.” “The West needs to help Russia. If we don’t, we’ll pay for it in the long run.” Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/bunkercast  Written and presented by Justin Quirk. Lead Producer: Jacob Jarvis. Producers: Jacob Archbold and Jelena Sofronijevic. Assistant producer: Kasia Tomasiewicz. Audio production by Jade Bailey. Music: Kenny Dickinson. Group editor: Andrew Harrison. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Since Russia's invasion of Ukraine in February, the Western world's eyes have been on Russia's leader, Vladimir Putin.

1:17.0

From his ritualistic lectures to his underlings to his strangely theatrical public parades and saber-rattling speeches, Putin's public appearances

1:24.4

been picked over by war watchers, looking for clues about his state of mind,

1:28.0

the security of his position and the ultimate end game for the Russian state.

1:32.0

How did our relationship with this country go so badly wrong?

1:35.3

Is Putin mad? Is he going to be overthrown and if not what does a solution ultimately look like?

1:41.6

Joining me in the bunker today to answer these questions is

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Mark Berenson, senior lecturer associate professor at the Russia Institute in the

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School of Politics and Economics at Kings College London. Welcome to the bunker

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