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Politics Weekly UK

Could Reform UK and the Tories merge?

Politics Weekly UK

The Guardian

News, Politics

4.01.4K Ratings

🗓️ 4 December 2025

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Nigel Farage was handed a £9m donation this week, amid reports he said elsewhere that a deal with the Conservatives before the general election was ‘inevitable’. John Harris speaks to Kiran Stacey about what this means for Reform UK. They also discuss David Lammy’s plan to scrap some jury trials, and answer questions from Politics Weekly UK listeners. Help support our independent journalism at theguardian.com/politicspod

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0:00.0

This is The Guardian.

0:09.2

Look, my party's leader, Kemi Bade Nock, has said that there will be no deal.

0:14.8

Richard Tice. Deal? Or no deal? No deal.

0:20.6

Nigel Farage has reportedly said that a deal with the Tories before the next election is inevitable.

0:26.5

And so now both sides are furiously denied.

0:29.6

But what does all this really tell us about the state of the British right and who might soon be running the country?

0:34.9

I'm John Harris and you're listening to Politics Weekly UK for The Guardian.

0:41.8

Joining me today is my Politics Weekly co-host and The Guardian's Policy and it's a Kieran Stacey.

0:46.4

Hi Kieran. Hi, John. Later in this episode, we'll be talking about Justice Secretary David

0:51.2

Lammy and his big proposal to get rid of some jury trials in England and Wales.

0:55.4

And we'll also be answering some of your listener emails. But first, let's talk about Reform UK and the Tories.

1:02.0

We're recording this on Thursday morning. When news has just broken that Reform UK has received a record nine million pound donation from a businessman called Christopher Harbourn.

1:13.4

That money represents the biggest single donation to a British political party by a living

1:18.8

donor ever.

1:20.2

Obviously, we're not looking there at people's wills and so on, but nonetheless,

1:24.0

this seems very significant.

1:25.2

Harbourn, it seems, is an aviation entrepreneur and crypto investor.

1:29.3

He was born in Britain, but he now lives in Thailand. He gave large sums to the Brexit Party in

1:34.4

2019 and 2020, but has not donated cash to any of Nigel Farage's political projects since.

1:41.1

This, it seems to me, is big news. And it comes after a story that broke earlier in the week

1:45.0

when the Financial Times said that donors have been told by Nigel Farage

1:49.2

that it was inevitable.

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