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Hello. forward slash voucher. Hello and welcome to the Americano podcast, a series of discussions about American politics,

power and prejudices. This year, 2024, is an election year in America, a presidential election year.

And so we will be doing two podcasts a week, rather than our usual one, because we want to

and because we know you can't get enough Americano in your life.

Today we're going to be talking about the state of Pennsylvania, which looks increasingly

certain to play a very, very important part in this year's presidential election.

In fact, Donald Trump recently said that if we win Pennsylvania, we win the whole thing.

To talk about this, I'm delighted to be joined by Oliver Bateman, who is a writer for unheard,

and a Pennsylvania resident. He joins us now from Pittsburgh.

Oliver, you've written about this subject.

Just for our viewers who don't understand quite why Pennsylvania will be so crucial,

can you explain why it will be? Well, Pennsylvania is a

large state that is at the moment probably the most divided and I suppose by that by that same

token most representative of the American states.

It is a state that was very much a toss-up, right?

So Trump won it in 2016, with the powered by a lot of mail-in ballots in 2020.

Joe Biden was able to win the state, you know, sort of a last second push there that night.

And now, even with, sort of a last second push there that night. And now,

even with the sort of like Kamala bounce, right, you know, this, this kind of polling bump that the Democrats got for switching out the candidate, it's, it remains a place where, you know,

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