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Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots. I'm James Heel and I'm joined today by Katie Valls and

Isabel Harbman.

Isabel, I think the big story dominating at lunchtime was about the government winning its case against the Royal College of Nurses. Talk us through the story and where we're at on the strikes on the NHS. Yes, so this is, it's quite a curious case really that was in the High Court. Steve Barclay taking the Royal College of Nursing to court over their planned 48-hour walkout, which was going to start, and still will

start actually at 8pm on the 30th of April, and was planned to go on until 8pm on the 2nd

of May. Now, the legal point that Barclay was arguing, and he'd been asked to do so by NHS employers,

was that actually this meant that the strike fell outside of the six-month mandate that the RCN had for strike action.

This is using the relatively new trade union law that the Conservatives passed back in 2016, the Trade Union Act. So they had six

months which expired, I think, at midnight on the 1st of May, so the second strike day was unlawful.

The RCN chose not to come to court. They came to the High Court building and protested outside

with placards saying, who takes heroes to court, and wrote a letter to the judge saying they weren't showing any

disrespect to the judge. It's just that they fundamentally disagree with the Trade Union Act.

And it's not fair as Steve Barclay to have taken nurses to court when actually these are

the people who the public trust the most. And the judge

basically dismissed that letter, described the RCN as having behaved unreasonably, said he thought

the letter probably had been written for a different audience, which I think is fair. But in a small

victory for the RCN disagreed with the government's demand for around

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