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The Indicator from Planet Money

Could Meta do more to protect us from cyber scams?

The Indicator from Planet Money

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Business

4.79.2K Ratings

🗓️ 10 July 2025

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

Many small businesses are online now, but so are cyber criminals trying to take advantage. On today's show, how one bar owner fell victim to a Facebook scam and if big tech could do more to protect small business owners from increasing cyber attacks. Read Stephan's original piece.

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0:00.0

NPR.

0:02.0

This is the indicator from Planet Money.

0:13.4

I'm Darren Woods.

0:14.5

And back with me for a second day in a row is friend of the show, Stephen Visaha, from

0:20.0

the Gulf States Newsroom.

0:21.4

Good to be back with you, Daryon.

0:22.9

And today, I have a very different story for you about small businesses, like the Little

0:28.9

House.

0:29.8

It's this neighborhood bar in New Orleans, the kind of place where you can sip wine while

0:35.1

surrounded by taxidermied alligators and chicken feet.

0:39.0

We're swamp chic, if you will.

0:41.3

Swamp's cheek? I hadn't heard that one before.

0:43.3

That is the bar's owner, Hillary Hanning.

0:45.6

You look around. We've got taxidermy and all kinds of stuff,

0:48.7

but it's like encompassed with this very bougie-esque, really cool boutiquey wine selection and

0:55.6

fun cocktails and stuff.

0:57.3

It's struggling to death, but we're having fun.

1:00.3

Now, the real reason we're here

1:02.2

is the source of some of that struggle.

1:05.1

Hillary's been dealing with a problem

1:06.6

that's harmed thousands of small businesses

1:08.7

and caused many to shut down.

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