Hello and welcome to another edition of the Americano podcast.

I'm sorry it's been a while since the last episode,

but that's because we've been very busy putting together and launching the first edition of the Spectator in America, the Spectator US edition.

And I'd like to encourage all Americano listeners to subscribe, which they can do by going to

www.spictator.us forward slash subscribe. And there you can take advantage of one of our

offers. I would encourage you to do that.

We're all pretty pleased with the magazine and how it's come out. So back to Americano. I am joined

today by Daniel McCarthy, who is a contributing editor of Spectator USA as well as the editor of

modern age. And we're going to be discussing impeachment and the future

of the Republican and Democratic parties. Dan, you wrote an excellent piece for us yesterday,

in which you said that impeachment was regime suicide. Can you take us through exactly what you

meant by that? Well, the ironic thing about both the

downfall of Richard Nixon and the Bill Clinton impeachment in 1998 is that arguably both of those

experiences, as unpleasant as they were for the country, they kind of tested America's

institutions and America's institutions passed the test. So Nixon did not have to be impeached.

The mere fact that his support was collapsing and it was clear that an impeachment would happen

and that he would very likely be convicted and removed was enough to motivate him to resign.

And following his resignation, there were actually a series of much more important events involving

examinations by the Church Committee and others of how the FBI and CIA and other American

intelligence agencies had involved themselves in the political process.

So in a way, that was actually more important, I think, in terms of sort of Americans and

their understanding of their government than the Nixon resignation.

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