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The Eric Metaxas Show

Could England Fall? | Tolkien, Lewis, and War | Joseph Loconte

The Eric Metaxas Show

Metaxas Media

Religion & Spirituality, News Commentary, Society & Culture, Christianity, News

4.63.6K Ratings

🗓️ 1 October 2025

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

How did both world wars impact the iconic works of Tolkien and Lewis? Socrates in the City host Eric Metaxas is joined by author and historian Joseph Loconte to discuss his newest book, The War for Middle-earth: J.R.R. Tolkien and C.S. Lewis Confront the Gathering Storm, 1933–1945. Throughout this book and conversation, the looming threat of war is revealed, Tolkien and Lewis's friendship as a force for creativity and honesty, and the surprising influence behind Lewis's The Screwtape Letters.

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1:01.9

Hey, the folks, it's Tuesday, September 30th. Yesterday, I was in Washington, D.C. for the Washington,

1:07.7

sorry, for the president's commission onigious Liberty. I'll be filling you in

1:13.4

on all of my travels tomorrow on this program. But today, I want to air a conversation I had with

1:22.1

my dear, dear friend, Joe LaCante. He's one of the greats. We had a conversation for Socrates in the studio.

1:31.2

Look up Joe LaCante. His stuff is just spectacular. He's just, he really is a great thinker,

1:37.9

absolutely brilliant, and a very dear friend for many years. But we're going to play my

1:42.2

conversation with him right now. We did it for Socrates in the studio. And I believe in our two, we're going to play my conversation with him right now. We did it for Socrates

1:44.5

in the studio. And I believe in our two, we're going to rerun my conversation with Pastor Cheon,

1:50.1

who's running for governor in California. Kind of a big deal. So that's exciting. All right. And here's

1:56.9

my conversation first with Jolacante. Welcome to Socrates in the studio, which is part of Socrates in the city.

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