Could Delay Calling Cops Plus Coroner Comments Create Reasonable Doubt For Kohberger?

Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan

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🗓️ 18 June 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

A lot of information has come out about the victims in Moscow, Idaho, and the condition of their bodies as well as location and injuries. Latah County Coroner Cathy Mabutt made many public comments in the first days of the investigation that in retrospect might have been misguided, at best. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss the case, the evidence, and what was stated as fact early in the investigation that doesn't match up with current facts. Joe Scott Morgan explains the forensics of death, Livor Mortis, Rigor Mortis, as well as PMI, Post Mortem Interval, and how the delay in reporting the bodies could be problematic for the prosecution in the upcoming trial of Brian Kohberger.

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00:00.19 Introduction

01:48.68 Decomposition - PMI

03:32.16 Elderly people are cold when it is hot

07:00.30 Rigor Mortis, Livor Mortis

11:48.60 Environmentally dependent

15:33.11 Stiffening of jaw

19:56.67 Latah County Coroner said Idaho students killed in their sleep

23:19.82 Strength of Rigor Mortis

28:22.59 Using digital turkey thermometer to get body temp from liver

32:54.33 Assuming room temperature

38:11.60 Latah County Coroner told family member about injuries

43:00.35 Removing stomach and collecting contents

49:49.70 Gastric content

53:08.10 Post Mortem lividity

58:25.86 Conclusion

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0:00.0	This is an IHeart podcast.
0:05.6	Bodybacks with Joseph Scott Moore.
0:10.0	I don't know about you all, but I think about temperature every day.
0:15.0	And generally it has to do with determining how much money I'll have at the end of the month to pay for my air conditioning bill.
0:26.0	Because I hate being in a, I don't even like, I'm not even going to say hot, I hate being in a warm house.
0:31.5	I like being in a cool house.
0:34.0	And unfortunately, my desire for fiscal comfort is non-compatible with summertime in the deep south.
0:43.8	I'm going to wind up having a huge electric bill at the end of every month, guaranteed.
0:51.6	I think about temp in that sense.
0:53.8	But, you know, I thought about temp for a long time as a death investigator.
0:59.9	Because we use temperature in order to determine how long it's been since someone has, I don't know, been cast off this mortal coil in the words of the bard?
1:17.1	And there are a lot of indicators that we look for.
1:20.5	And today on body bags, we're going to have a discussion about PMI, post-mortem interval, and in particular,
1:33.4	we're going to have a discussion that ties back to a case that is currently in the news
1:38.9	and will be for months and months to come.
1:42.9	The Murder of the four students in Idaho.
1:48.7	I'm Joseph Scott Morgan, and this is Bodybacks.
1:55.5	Dave, I don't know if you recall this, but have you ever been around, and it's generally a grandparent,
2:06.6	it doesn't matter if it is as hot as the surface of the sun outside.
2:13.8	They're going to run the heat.
2:15.7	They're going to put a shawl around them or a blanket.
2:19.1	They're going to have like woolen socks on.
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