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Hello and welcome to another episode of the Americano podcast, a series of discussions about

American politics and the Trump presidency. I would like to remind you all that we have just

launched our print edition and I'd like to encourage you all to subscribe. You can do that by going

to www. spectator.us forward slash subscribe. And there you can take advantage of our various

offers. I'm joined today by Matt McDonald, who is Spectator USA's managing editor, and we're

going to be asking if Bernie Sanders is going to win

the Democratic nomination. Now, Matt, you were in Atlanta last week for the Democratic TV

debate, and you came back with the strong impression that Bernie Sanders is doing a lot better

than the media gives him credit for. Let's look at the polls. You can see Bernie

Sanders is rising. What do you think is going on? Well, I mean, there's this strange paradox with the

Bernie Sanders campaign in that they thrive off the impression that like Trump, they kind of like

to run against the media and say that Bernie

doesn't get a fair shake in the media and therefore that's not reflecting the polls. But then at the same

time, you watch them getting consistent poll success, arguably. So the night before the debate last

week, I went to a Bernie campaign event in a bar in downtown Atlanta where Renee Spellman was one of the

speakers there who's Bernie's deputy campaign manager and within the space of two sentences

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