Could Bernie Sanders Win It All?

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

New York Times Opinion

New York Times, Journalism, News, Society & Culture, Ross Douthat

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🗓️ 16 January 2020

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Has Bernie Sanders been woefully underestimated? The columnists discuss the Vermont senator’s rise in 2020 polling, his current spat with rival progressive Elizabeth Warren and whether Sanders has been given short shrift by Democratic Party insiders and the national news media. Then, as Michelle talks through the next column she's writing: Technology was supposed to solve the world’s problems, but it seems to have made more unsolvable ones. Is tech why the future looks so grim? For background reading on this episode, visit nytimes.com/theargument.

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0:00.0	I'm Michelle Goldberg.
0:02.0	I'm Ross Douthit.
0:03.0	I'm David Lee and Hart.
0:05.0	And this is the argument.
0:09.0	This week, have we been underestimating Bernie Sanders?
0:13.0	He has the support he's always had.
0:15.0	He has the donors.
0:16.0	He's always had.
0:17.0	He has the organization.
0:18.0	He's always had.
0:19.0	And he has the strength that not all of his rivals have had.
0:23.0	Then, has the future failed?
0:26.0	We talk about the possible end of technological wonder.
0:30.0	Technology itself has just become this looming menace.
0:36.0	And finally, a recommendation.
0:39.0	This book is like if Graham Greene and Spike Lee had a baby.
0:44.0	He finished a strong second in the 2016 Democratic primaries.
0:49.0	He has the largest group of donors, 1.2 million of them.
0:53.0	And polls have consistently shown him at or near the top of this year's field.
0:57.0	Even so, Bernie Sanders has sometimes seemed like an afterthought in this year's campaign.
1:02.0	At least to the media and to Democrats of the world.
1:06.0	And he's the biggest and most important person in the world.
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