And the So, Why haven't we got Edward Will on this show? I don't you think you would talk to us?

I mean you've been very rude about him over the years. Is he on the band list?

I think he might be on the band.

I think we would have to take it

if we were offered an interview with Edward Woods

because it would be too fascinating not to.

Yeah, I mean, I think. fascinating not

sure he's done too many interviews where he's been challenged.

I mean, the UWS interview, I haven't read all of it, it's sitting in my iPhone at the moment as I do know, because it's 21st century, and so that's the subscription I have but I've seen a few the quotes

have come out of there and obviously Woodward's all hands was fairly widely leaked in the past week which which said some of the same stuff and

I think he's doubled down on some of the comments that he made at the last financial

call as well so you know it's not his fault he but the funny

thing actually one of the funny things one of the dichotomies that I see in Ed Woodward is he wants us to know that he's just a dude signing the

Right? It's not his fault. You know he said it's an insult to the people on the football side to say

commercial things matter too much it's not his fault that it's gone wrong over the

last six years but he also wants you know he knows an awful lot about

players and tactics and what's going on in the world of football and he just can't help

himself on that front. Yeah it's a kind of like cake and eat it situation there.

Oh God there's a whole lot of cakeism going on with Woodward.

So, you know, and my...

Cakeism, is that how business people call have your cake and eat it?

They call it cake is them?

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