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Think from KERA

Could animals possibly understand death?

Think from KERA

KERA

Kera, 071003, Think, Society & Culture, Krysboyd

4.7911 Ratings

🗓️ 18 October 2024

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

The concept of death can trigger an existential crisis in humans. Do animals face the same fears? Susana Monsó is associate professor of philosophy in the Department of Logic, History, and Philosophy of Science at the National Distance Education University (UNED) in Madrid. She joins host Krys Boyd to discuss what animals know about dying – from mourning rituals to attempts at saving lives – and if this newfound understanding means we should treat animals differently. Her book is “Playing Possum: How Animals Understand Death.” 

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0:00.0

The idea of death is something we're confronted with every day.

0:13.9

In the headlines, in true crime podcasts and violent movies, when we realize that yet again we have managed to kill a house plant.

0:22.1

Many of us prefer to avoid dwelling on our own eventual demise, but the fact remains that we

0:27.1

humans are keenly aware of death as a concept. But are we the only ones? From KERA in Dallas,

0:35.3

this is think. I'm Chris Boyd. For a long time, we allowed ourselves to believe that an awareness of the possibility of death was one of those things that made humans unique.

0:44.8

There's no way of knowing if a bear or a snake or a bird goes about its daily business knowing life is fleeting,

0:50.6

and these creatures don't seem to mourn members of their own species who die in ways

0:55.2

that look recognizable to us. But if we go beyond looking for human-like rituals among other

1:01.2

animals experiencing death, my guest finds significant evidence in numerous animals that they

1:06.5

indeed have at least a minimal concept of death. Susanna Munso is Associate Professor of Philosophy

1:13.1

in the Department of Logic History and Philosophy of Science at the National Distance Education

1:18.2

University in Madrid. Her book is called Playing Possum, How Animals Understand Death. Susanna,

1:25.3

welcome to think. Thank you so much for having me. It's a pleasure

1:29.0

to be here. Before we get into what other species comprehend about death, I mean, we should

1:34.4

acknowledge it can be a challenging concept even for humans, right? Understanding the physical

1:39.2

cause of death doesn't answer why for us. Yes, absolutely. I think this is something that I myself forget sometimes

1:47.3

because I've been working on this for so long

1:50.7

that I forget the emotional significance

1:53.3

that death has for us humans.

1:56.7

And it's happened to me more than once

1:58.8

that I've killed the mood of a dinner party

2:00.5

by talking about my research on these topics.

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