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Short Wave

Could AI Go Green?

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πŸ—“οΈ 9 May 2025

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

Google, Microsoft and Meta have all pledged to reach at least net-zero carbon emissions by 2030. Amazon set their net-zero deadline for 2040. To understand how these four tech companies could possibly meet their climate goals amid an artificial intelligence renaissance, Short Wave co-host Emily Kwong discusses the green AI movement. Speaking with scientists, CEOs and tech insiders, she explores three possible pathways: nuclear energy, small language models (SLMs) and back-to-the-future ways of keeping data centers cool.

Listen to Part 1 of Short Wave's reporting on the environmental cost of AI here.

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Hey, Shortweaver is Regina Barbara here with my co-host, Emily Kwong, with the second half of a mini-series she reported on the environmental footprint of AI.

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Hi, Gina.

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So today, I am bringing you a story of a personal crisis.

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