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And greetings my friends, patriots, lovers of democracy, truth and justice, believers in peace,

freedom and the American way, Tom Hartman here with you. We're going to do a deep dive,

conversations with great minds, with Francis Morela Paid. It's a 50 year anniversary of her book

Diet for a small planet. There's a new addition out, and she does a deep dive, not just into diet,

but also into politics or into democracy, into the consequences of how we eat for the planet,

as well as for our bodies. And I think you're going to find that an absolutely fascinating conversation.

And also energy cannibalism. This is absolutely fascinating. I was flagged about this,

by a post over on Daily Coase, by Pacalolo in the community threads, where I occasionally post as well.

And it's titled energy cannibalism is happening so fast that the collapse of the oil industry will

blow up renewables, will derail the renewables. And here's what it is and how it works.

When you pump oil out of the ground, there's a whole spectrum of amounts of effort it takes to get

that oil. Most of us of a certain age remember the movies from back in the first half of the 20th

century. When people would go out to Oklahoma or Texas and they'd drill a water well thinking

they would find water and they'd hit a certain depth and suddenly oil would come gushing out of

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