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Inquiry with Kelly Chase

[Cosmosis] Ep 6: Diana Walsh Pasulka on Levitation, Redaction, and the Ontological Shock of Contact

Inquiry with Kelly Chase

SpectreVision Radio

Documentary, Society & Culture, Social Sciences, Science

4.5 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 4 April 2025

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of Cosmosis, we share a never-before-released talk by Dr. Diana Walsh Pasulka, recorded live at the Inquire Anomalous conference in New York City. Diana—religious studies professor and author of American Cosmic and Encounters—takes us on an astonishing journey through her research into Catholic mysticism, Vatican archives, and modern UFO contact experiences. From levitating saints and the mysterious Woman in Blue to redacted mystical narratives and the ontological shock of encountering the impossible, Diana reveals surprising links between ancient religious experiences and contemporary reports of contact with non-human intelligences. She also speaks candidly about her own transformation, the eerie resonances between the sacred and the anomalous, and her collaboration with figures like Tyler D. and Dr. Garry Nolan on the frontier of space, consciousness, and belief. This episode includes the full live Q&A with Diana—where she responds to insightful (and sometimes wild) audience questions about redaction, religious symbolism, and whether spiritual devotion might offer protection from malevolent entities. Books by Diana Walsh Pasulka American Cosmic: UFOs, Religion, Technology Encounters: Experiences with Nonhuman Intelligences The Others: UFOs, AI, and the Secret Forces Guiding Human Destiny 🔗 Learn more about Diana’s work and online courses: https://dwpasulka.com Watch Cosmosis: UFOs & A New Reality:https://www.cosmosis.media/Join the Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/cosmosismediaSubscribe to Cosmosis:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Cosmosis.PodcastSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7KnyktIs059pbVdccD020D?si=f3835f36a8cb479dApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cosmosis-formerly-the-ufo-rabbit-hole/id1595590107 Follow CosmosisX: https://x.com/cosmosis_mediaFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/share/12EEyNVPucu/?mibextid=wwXIfrInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/cosmosis.mediaListen to the Cosmosis Soundtrack by Michael Rubino:Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/album/5Xvs2NAHNbKjfW7hWkjqey?si=pJPPgIPsRZGkZjJh19UULQApple Music: https://music.apple.com/us/album/cosmosis-ufos-a-new-reality-season-one-original-soundtrack/1788465117Amazon: https://amazon.com/music/player/albums/B0DS5WY5CB?marketplaceId=ATVPDKIKX0DER&musicTerritory=US&ref=dm_sh_zY05XPzhLhuow5dAgK3g2W9yC TIMESTAMPS06:10 Exploring Ascent Narratives and UFOs08:37 Investigating Vatican Archives and Levitation12:28 Comparing Historical and Modern Phenomena21:40 Theresa of Avila's Angel Event28:42 Synchronicities and Childhood Beliefs29:39 Meeting Edward Carlos: An Experiencer's Story31:10 The Process of Redaction32:54 Historical Context and Space Programs35:30 St. Francis of Assisi's Angel Experience42:50 Q&A Session53:15 Closing Remarks and Resources Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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There's a dart-like instrument that pierces her, and on the end of it is like a fire.

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It looks like a fire. She says it's like a light.

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And I started to read this, and at the same time I also read John Mack's book Abduction.

0:14.0

Almost every chapter in John Mack's book looks like something from the historical Catholic record. And so what I

0:22.4

decided to do, it's called redaction criticism, we call it that, is I wanted to check out all

0:28.2

the original sources. And so when I did that, I found some really interesting things.

0:34.0

Welcome back to Cosmosis. I'm your host, Jay Christopher King, joined as always by my co-host, Kelly Chase.

0:40.3

If you're new here, Cosmosis is a podcast that grew out of our docu-series, Cosmosis, UFOs, and the New Reality,

0:47.0

which is available now on Amazon Prime, Apple TV, Fandango at Home, and other streamers.

0:52.3

You can find links to all the platforms at cosmos.

0:56.0

This podcast is where we continue the conversation,

0:59.3

exploring the ideas, insights, and experiences

1:01.6

that are reshaping how we understand reality itself.

1:05.1

But don't worry, you don't need to have seen the show

1:07.6

to follow along with the podcast.

1:09.5

But if you like what you hear, we do hope

1:11.8

you'll check it out. Today's episode is a special one. We're honored to share a never-before-released

1:17.3

talk by Dr. Diana Walsh Posolka recorded live at the Inquirer Anomalous Conference in New York City

1:23.3

in December 2023, which I hosted and organized, along with James Ian Doley and Leslie Kane.

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We're presenting it here for the first time, along with the live Q&A.

1:34.4

Diana is a professor of religious studies at the University of North Carolina Wilmington.

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She's also the author of American Cosmic and Encounters, two groundbreaking books that explore the intersection of UFOs,

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