Cosmology, Creation, and the Evidence for God
The Michael Shermer Show
Michael Shermer
4.3 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 29 November 2025
⏱️ 76 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, Michel-Yves Bolloré lays out his case for why modern cosmology, fine-tuning, and the limits of materialism point toward a creator. Drawing on physics, thermodynamics, probability, and philosophy, he argues that the Big Bang, the apparent beginning of the universe, and the complexity of life collectively form a compelling body of evidence for God's existence. Bolloré explains why he believes the universe is not eternal, why "nothing" cannot produce "something," how moral red lines suggest a transcendent source, and how he reconciles scientific reasoning with his Christian faith, while Michael Shermer gently but rigorously presses him with questions to elicit his strongest arguments.
Michel-Yves Bolloré is an engineer and entrepreneur whose career spans industrial innovation and philanthropic investment in education. He is a graduate of the École Nationale Supérieure d'Ingénieur de Toulouse and Paris-Dauphine University (Master of Science and Doctorate in Business Administration). He founded several schools, including The Laurels in London and Les Vignes in France. He is also a Knight of the Legion of Honor. His new book is God: the Science and the Evidence.
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| 0:00.0 | The question of the existence of God and the question of the existence of the Martians, more or less is the same question. |
| 0:06.6 | Do the Martians exist? So it is a question, do some, a person we cannot see, exist or not? |
| 0:15.3 | So Martian and God are the same question. |
| 0:17.6 | When it comes to the origin of life, there are only two possibilities, creation |
| 0:21.6 | or spontaneous generation. There is no third way, and this we all agree. |
| 0:26.6 | Spontaneous generation was disproved many years ago, but that leads us to only one other conclusion, |
| 0:34.6 | that of supernatural creation. |
| 0:41.0 | I cannot accept that on philosophical grounds. |
| 0:47.7 | Therefore, I choose to believe the impossible that life arose spontaneously by chance. Can a democratic majority in your country pass a resolution, say, to gas Jewish people, reinstate slavery, euthanize old people. |
| 0:58.3 | Does it have the right? |
| 0:59.3 | Yes or no? |
| 1:00.3 | Probably you will say no, not even if the parliamentary vote is unanimous. |
| 1:05.1 | You know, if you asked that question two centuries ago, almost everybody would say, yeah, |
| 1:10.1 | slavery sounds good to me. |
| 1:15.5 | Spain's industrial innovation and philanthropic investment in education. He's a graduate of |
| 1:23.6 | the Ecole National in Toulouse, where he earned a Master's of Science |
| 1:28.4 | and a Doctorate in Business Administration. |
| 1:31.2 | He began his career in the family business |
| 1:33.2 | managing the Bolera Group's industrial division |
| 1:36.2 | from 1981 to 1990. |
| 1:38.4 | In 1990, he founded France Essoir, |
| 1:40.9 | an industrial group that led major ventures |
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