All right, everybody buckle up. This is going to be a good one. This is me and my good friend,

Corey Reese, who has been on the show before and is an author, runner all around just good

human being who wrote a couple of books and his newest books stronger than the dark is coming

out really soon. Since the last time he's been on the show, he's written a book into the

furnace about bad water, he's run bad water, he's done ball state, he's done the badger,

he's had a bunch of life changes. And what we talk about is a lot of that and the new book,

but we don't want to go too far into the new book because if we tell you everything that's

in it, then why would you want to read it? So we talk about some deep issues that are kind

of, you know, adjacent to the book. We catch up, we chat, just random stuff, but it's

really good, a good conversation with a really authentic dude and I think you're really,

going to like it. This episode is brought to you by our friends at Trail Transformation. We've

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