Cory Clark: Why We're Tribal
Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps
Josh Szeps
4.5 • 905 Ratings
🗓️ 1 August 2023
⏱️ 73 minutes
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Summary
Are you more forgiving of people you agree with than those you don’t? Have humans evolved to favour our own kind, to avoid ostracism, and to gain social status? Cory Clark is a behavioral scientist who studies tribalism and group identity. Her findings are shocking… but they offer us a path out of this mess.
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| 0:00.0 | This episode is part of our fantastic collaboration with the University of Technology, Sydney's Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences, |
| 0:07.8 | spearheaded by its fearless dean, Professor Alan Davison, who's committed to making UTS the place for independent thinking on Australian campuses. |
| 0:16.9 | I'm a visiting fellow there, and we team up for a series called Permission to Think, |
| 0:22.6 | of which this is the latest installment. |
| 0:25.5 | Expand your mind and enjoy. |
| 0:29.6 | Goody, humans. |
| 0:31.0 | Welcome to the safe space for dangerous ideas. |
| 0:33.2 | Here's a dangerous idea for you. |
| 0:35.7 | You are inconsistent in judging other people. |
| 0:40.9 | You give people who agree with you more of a pass than people who disagree with you. |
| 0:45.8 | You judge your enemies more harshly than your friends. |
| 0:48.8 | I suppose that's not that controversial when you put it that way. |
| 0:51.3 | But when you shift that into the political and cultural arena and say that you are probably more forgiving of people who are doing bad thinking, as long |
| 1:01.5 | as they end up where you are, and you're probably likely to jump in on a pile on against people |
| 1:07.0 | you disagree with, even if they're being reasonable in their thinking, then it becomes a |
| 1:12.7 | little bit more uncomfortable. |
| 1:15.4 | Corey Clark is a behavioral scientist. |
| 1:17.9 | She does research into bias, social contagion, especially in relation to academic research. |
| 1:24.5 | She looks at the evolutionary behavioral roots of being ostracized from tribes, |
| 1:29.5 | and she's done serious, hard, scientific research into the different ways in which people |
| 1:35.6 | either forgive or condemn other people or even something as abstract as an academic paper |
| 1:41.5 | if the conclusion doesn't accord with their pre-existing beliefs. |
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