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The Dispatch Podcast

Corrupting Influences | Roundtable

The Dispatch Podcast

The Dispatch

News, Politics

4.63.3K Ratings

🗓️ 5 December 2025

⏱️ 93 minutes

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Summary

Steve Hayes invites Jonah Goldberg, David French, and Kevin Williamson to discuss the ‘double tap’ order from Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth that may violate the laws of war. Is this another issue where Trump can ‘win’ because we’re an outcomes-over-process society? The Agenda:–We’re not at war–Legality of airstrikes–What is narco-terrorism exactly?–Megyn Kelly likes violence for some reason–A damning indictment–Pardon (our) abuse–NWYT: Our top podcasts and artists of the year (who listens to Caamp?) Show Notes:—AFPI’s Josh Trevino on School of War podcast—Kevin, David, and Jonah’s pieces on the pardon powers The Dispatch Podcast is a production of The Dispatch, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a non-partisan, conservative perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including access to all of our articles, members-only newsletters, and bonus podcast episodes—click here. If you’d like to remove all ads from your podcast experience, consider becoming a premium Dispatch member by clicking here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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yes, one dollar. Happy holidays and happy reading from all of us of the dispatch. Welcome to the Dispatch podcast. I'm Steve Hayes.

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On this week's roundtable, we'll go deep on the rule of law.

1:58.9

Talking about Secretary of Defense Pete Hague set,

2:01.5

the strikes against boats in the Caribbean,

2:04.7

and more broadly about the laws of war.

2:06.9

Then we'll get into Donald Trump's pardons

2:08.5

and his abuse of presidential pardon power.

2:10.4

And finally, as a tribute to Spotify Rapped and Apple replay,

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