Correcting the Liberal Myths of George Washington | Presidents Series | Andrew Klavan
The Rubin Report
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🗓️ 18 February 2026
⏱️ 28 minutes
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Summary
Dave Rubin of "The Rubin Report" talks to Andrew Klavan about George Washington's legacy during Presidents' Week; Washington's moral character and decision to relinquish power after the Revolutionary War; comparisons to Cincinnatus and the importance of civilian control of the military; Washington's views on virtue, slavery, and freeing his slaves upon death; how his leadership united founders like Jefferson and Adams; what Washington might think of modern political polarization and free speech debates; and why understanding the Founding Fathers requires historical balance, and much more.
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| 0:00.0 | We've heard so much garbage from the people who ate this country and the people who think |
| 0:04.6 | this country shouldn't exist or think it's stolen land or think it should be better or think |
| 0:08.6 | it, you know, it's not, it's not the most brilliant political idea in the history of |
| 0:14.3 | mankind because that is what America is. It is the best political idea anybody ever had. |
| 0:19.7 | And they'll say, well, George Washington held slaves. |
| 0:22.6 | And if you understand that he's a better person than you are, then you understand that if you |
| 0:27.0 | had been in his position, you would have done something much worse. Because of course, he knew |
| 0:31.4 | that slavery was wrong. He wanted it to be gradually, you know, gotten rid of. |
| 0:38.1 | And alone among the slave-holding founders, which was not all of the founders, but alone among |
| 0:42.6 | the slave-holding founders, he freed his slaves upon his death. |
| 0:57.5 | All right, I'm Dave Rubin. |
| 1:04.4 | And in honor of Presidents' Week, we're talking about a different president of the United States every day this week. |
| 1:11.8 | And joining me today to talk about our first president, George Washington, is the host of the Andrew Claven show. |
| 1:17.6 | Andrew Claven, who I'm told, I'm told, also has wooden teeth. |
| 1:19.2 | True or false? |
| 1:21.7 | I just, I have them in my drawer, yes. But I just keep them there. |
| 1:23.0 | It's like a fetish. |
| 1:24.0 | It's a fetish thing. |
| 1:26.4 | Andrew, it's good to see you. I love having yawn to talk about all the craziness of the day, |
| 1:30.2 | but I really thought for President's Week this week, we could just talk about some guys who |
| 1:35.0 | aren't with us anymore, who maybe were better. Maybe we're a little better than you and me. |
| 1:40.2 | Maybe we're a little better than the politicians of the day and everything else. And of course, George |
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