Coronomics: is reopening possible without a tracing app?

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🗓️ 23 June 2020

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Germany has launched its contact tracing app, but is it the only way to get out of lockdown? Kate Andrews talks to a panel of international guests and hears about the situation from Italy, where concerns over tourism and getting their cities back are conflicting the residents of Venice and Rome; from Germany, where uptake on the new app has been good; and from America, on how even 'science' is becoming partisan.

With Silvia Sciorilli Borrelli from Rome, Nick Gillespie from New York, and Constantin Eckner from Berlin.

Presented by Kate Andrews.

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0:00.0	The Spectator is looking for the UK's brightest entrepreneurs for our Economic Innovator of the Year Awards, sponsored by private bank Julius Baer.
0:09.0	If you run a business that brings radical positive change and is capable of achieving national or international impact, we want to hear from you.
0:18.2	Apply by 1st of July at spectator.com.uk forward slash innovator. Hello and welcome to Coronomics, the Spectator series on stories from countries turned upside down by COVID-19.
0:39.6	I'm Kate Andrews.
0:41.2	Today's podcast features our panel, based around the world, who have selected a story that gives you an inside look at what's happening outside their windows.
0:49.2	Sylvia Ciorilli Borelli is reporting from Rome and Milan correspondent for the Financial Times.
0:55.2	Constantine Echner is reporting from Berlin and a journalist and historian, and Nick Gillespie is reporting
1:00.6	from New York City, and editor-at-large-Fariza magazine. Welcome all. Sylvia, let's start with you.
1:07.3	First of all, welcome back. This is your first episode in season two of Coronomics. We're
1:12.8	excited to have your update from Italy. This week, you've picked a story from DW, looking at
1:19.2	Italy reopening its tourist industry and perhaps some struggles and some conflicting opinions around
1:25.7	it. Talk us through it. Yes, it's great to be back. And as you were saying, I picked an article in a German
1:34.6	publication, DW, that I think describes very well the conflict between locals in major Italian
1:41.4	holiday destinations like Venice and the tourism industry.
1:45.9	In the article, there are a few voices describing how they like authorities to limit mass tourism
1:50.8	in Venice because recent numbers are not sustainable, although, of course, now the city is
1:57.2	largely empty.
1:59.0	And it also makes a good point about how residents have had to flee the town center
2:03.2	because an increasing number of landlords have opted to put their apartments on short-term stay platforms
2:09.6	like Airbnb. And it describes the frustration of residents who are left in the city and have to hear
2:16.5	the noise of suitcase wheels all day long and all night
2:19.8	and are often woken up by tourists who come knocking on their doors because they got the Airbnb
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