Hello, I'm Karnisharpe on the BBC World Service, and this is BBC OS.

Conversations on Coronavirus, Survivor's Guilt.

In a moment, three people share how to overcome the feelings of guilt after the death of a loved one from COVID-19.

Plus, three doctors reveal the current situation in Namibia, South Africa and Uganda, where infections are once again on the rise.

The first wave of COVID was easily predictable.

People who are older, people who are multimobile, we are more likely to get severe disease.

But now in this current wave of COVID, you do not know really who goes to ICU.

You do not know who is going to die.

It's a hard number to fathom, but almost 4 million people across the world have now died from COVID-19.

But as we know, the disease has not just attacked our physical health since the

pandemic began, it's had a mental impact too, whether it's from anxiety, depression,

or loneliness. What emotion we've not yet discussed on the program is guilt. It could

be the guilt of passing on the virus to others or having survived COVID-19 when loved ones don't. We brought together three people

who will share deeply personal stories on Survivor's Guilt. They are Douglas in Durb in South Africa, Paul in Illinois

in the United States, but first to Swopner in Kathmandu in Nepal who shares her

experience with my colleague Nulamagovin.

Last year in August 2020,

me along with my husband and my three-year-old daughter,

we got infected with COVID, and it was really difficult to discuss

what we were going through then because there was a lot of stigma and

discrimination against COVID patients, right?

But after overcoming COVID, I felt that, you know,

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