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Hello, welcome to another episode of The Weeds on the Vox Media Podcast Network. I'm Matthew Adlesias joined today by As Recline from one of our Friday coronavirus chats.

I was struck in the sort of rural of coronavirus news, immediate crisis stuff that there were reports out there's a good article in the upshot about how health insurance premiums may be going up by as much as 40% next year as a result of sort of coronavirus costs.

This is not like the thing people need to worry about right now in this crisis, but it's close to the weeds is heart.

And it's a reminder, I think in some ways, that like we have an unresolved question as to like what is the sustainability of the existing American healthcare system under a variety of stresses.

Yeah, so to talk a bit about this analysis, this came out of covered California, which is the Obamacare Marketplace.

It's been set up in California and it's been one of the more successful ones in the nation.

And they were looking at this not just for California, but nationally.

And so you can think about the mechanisms here as being pretty simple. You have coronavirus that takes people's expected health care costs because

the extra percentage of the population is going to need hospital or ICU care who wouldn't otherwise have needed it.

It'll be very expensive. That's going to jack up the amount of expected health costs that is happening in a year that the insurance were not prepared for it.

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