I'm Jonathan Cape Heart. Welcome to Cape Up.

Candemics, spread and exploit the fishers of society.

And the United States has many, many wounds,

open wounds from structural racism and the criminalization of poverty and refuse it to address

poverty. And those realities make us and made us even more acceptable to the spread of this pandemic.

That's Reverend William Barber,

president of repairs of the breach and the Co-Chair of the Poor People's Campaign,

a National Call for Moral Revival.

For years, Barber has preached about how racism, poverty, voter suppression, the lack of access to health care are all linked.

Now comes the coronavirus that has forced us to face these fissures in American society. And Barbara says the American people are eager to fight back.

But there are supporters of the president who are fighting back against their state's

stay-at-home orders. Demonstrations Barbara believes are misguided.

What we need is not gun. We need grace towards each other. We don't need the

flags, but we need free testing and free health care.

Hear more from Reverend William Barber right now.

Reverend William Barber, thank you very much for being on the podcast.

Thank you always, brother, brother K. Pot and thank you for all the work that you do,

keeping the truth out there in a very objective way.

Well I am trying my best and I wanted to talk to you in this global emergency that we're in and

especially here in the United States the coronavirus pandemic as we've been reading for the last couple of weeks now that the African American community is bearing the brunt of this pandemic.

And I wanted to talk to you because the issues that this is bringing up factors into what you've been talking about

specifically over the last couple of years so how about you talk about at the outset from your perspective what the

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