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Coronapod: Uncertainty and the COVID 'lab-leak' theory

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🗓️ 4 June 2021

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Summary

Since the beginning of the pandemic, there have been allegations that SARS-CoV-2 could have originated in a Chinese lab. A phase one WHO investigation concluded that a 'lab-leak' was "extremely unlikely" and yet, the theory has seen a resurgence in recent weeks with several scientists wading into the debate.


In this episode of Coronapod, we delve into what scientists have been saying and ask how and why the 'lab-leak' hypothesis has gained so much traction. We ask if the way we communicate complex and nuanced science could be fuelling division, and what the fallout could be for international collaboration on ending the pandemic.


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1:02.4

Welcome to CoronaPod.

1:05.8

In this show, we're going to bring you Nature's Take on the latest COVID-19 developments. And we'll be speaking

1:12.2

to experts around the world about research during the pandemic. We're entering a new era now. We've

1:20.3

new COVID strategies. There's some new unknowns and we've got a vaccine.

1:30.6

Hello and welcome to CoronaPod.

1:36.5

We've been away for a few weeks, but now we're back and on the line as ever is reporter Amy Maxman.

1:37.5

Hi, Amy, how are you doing?

1:38.9

Hi, I'm good. How are you?

1:40.3

Not bad, thank you. So we've had a few weeks off, and in the last few weeks, an awful lot has happened,

1:44.6

including a resurgence of something that we've spoken about before, which is the lab leak theory.

1:50.8

So we'll talk a little bit more about this in a minute. But before we do that, can you tell us

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