Hello, I'm Kirstie Young, and this is a podcast from the Desert Island Discs archive.

For rights reasons, we've had to shorten the music.

The program was originally broadcast in 2001, and the presenter was Sue Lolly. My castaway this week is a Catholic priest. It runs in his family, although his father was a doctor, two of his

brothers and three of his uncles went into the priesthood. He trained in Rome, worked in a

Portsmouth parish, and then, aged nearly nearly 40 was asked to return to Rome to become

rector of the college where he trained a very privileged position. From there he became

the Bishop of Arndall and Brighton and after 22 years in the post might have expected to stay there until retirement.

But last year another call came, this time to lead the Catholics of England and Wales as Archbishop of Westminster.

Men have forgotten God, he says, quoting Salgenitzin, but he believes they'll remember

him again.

People are searching for meaning, he goes goes on and coming back to questions which

are ultimately religious ones. He is his eminence Cardinal Cormac Murphy O'Connor.

A double-barreled Irish name there, Cardinal.

You get two of the most popular names.

Are you doubly Irish?

Well, it is a bit strange, and a bit of a mouthful.

Well, it goes back to the last century, I think.

There was a Murphy and there was an

O'Connor. As I understand it, the O'Connor had had children and the Murphy

didn't. So the children of the O'Connor got the Murphy as well plus the property.

And they ran a wine business in Cork, yes.

What about the Cormac?

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