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involves risk. Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots. I'm Littie Dunn and today,

not that bright and early after last night's spectator summer party, I'm joined by James Heel

and Michael Simmons. Thanks both for joining me. I hope the heads aren't too sore today.

I think it should be noted that not only is James Hill joining us remotely, he's not even got a Zoom camera on.

I think certain sites should remain unseen.

And look, I will say this, is that unlike you two lightweights, I actually went to the arts

club afterwards, so, you know, I front-loaded the pain, shall we say. Well, we were busy

enjoying ourselves last night. Drama began to unfold elsewhere on the left. Former Labour MP,

Zara Sultana, dramatically quit the Labour Party, announcing that she will form a new party with Jeremy Corbyn. But James, as you've written for the website today, it hasn't really got off to the best start. So can you fill us in and what's actually gone on? Sure. So Zara Satana yesterday put this statement out around 24 hours after she was reprimands in the House of Commons for standing up and saying, we are all Palestine action, the group, of course,

which is going to be prescribed as a result of that attack on RAF Brise Norton. And it seems that that was

sort of the excuse, the pretext, the reason why Zarathar chose to put the statement out,

saying that she, that, quote, Jeremy and I will co-lead the founding of a new party with other

independent MPs campaigners and activists from across the country.

Now, my understanding from talking to people around Jeremy Corbyn today is that that took him completely by surprise.

It took many people by surprise. And that actually there's been lots of talks for many, many months, even before the last election, when Jeremy Corbyn, of course, was suspended October 2020, and then he got re-elected last summer, lots of talks about what they would do. Would they join the Greens? Would they have a sort of formal vehicle with the Garth of Independence, or would they form a new party? Now, my sense is that there was going to be a new party, and the plan was that Jeremy Corbynman would definitely play a leading role in that and sarah saturno play another leading role on that but they obviously wanted to choose the right timing get their optimal moment so this has completely taken on my surprise i think it's noticeable that jeremy corbin hasn't issued any public statement yet i believe that in the next coming few days we will see something up on that but frankly such a poor launch and it sort of reminisce on the sort of right of the Labour Party, it brings that memories of Change UK and the independent group and all of that lot. A bad launch, a bad conception, obviously, therefore, suggests two things, one of which is that it's not going to land in the way that you would want to, a dramatic blow, potentially, if you're choosing to do so on the eve of Labour Conference, might have more effect. But the second thing, of course, is that organisation is the key lesson, I think, from the last couple of years in British politics. If you organise, you can get people elected, be that the Garza independence across the country last year. It's where reform did so well on the local elections this year. They feel the candidate effectively in every single war across the 1600 seats that are up for election in the councils.

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