Hey, everybody. Hey, everybody. We all know the AI space is moving at a blistering pace right now.

So we decided to do a little ad hoc miniseries on it. We're calling it innovators in AI.

Yeah, very creative. Every week I'm going to interview a founder in the AI space here on this week in startups and every founder that joins is going to be building something awesome.

That is the criteria. Don't want just pontification. We want to actually see real products and today we have the CEO of Copy AI.

Paul Yucubian. We have a great conversation about the insane pace of AI, as I mentioned, and building products for a specific niche.

In this case, writing Copy AI, right? They do writing on top of various LLMs and he explains how he's dealing with the fact that, hey, he started, I think, with GPT 2 or 3, then they went 3.5, 4, 5 is coming out.

Bard is coming out from Google. So many different LLMs out there. How do you actually build a product that people are willing to pay for when these core platforms are moving so fast that they're going to absorb the innovations of people building on top of them almost in real time.

This is a major issue for founders who are building in GPT or in AI with open AI products. So it's going to be a great and insightful episode. Please stick with us.

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All right, everybody. Next up on the program is a company that's been doing generative AI specifically in copy and words.

For a couple of years, I met Paul a couple of years ago when he was raising money for copy dot AI my bestie David sacks from craft ventures is an investor in the company and I remember.

Meeting you Paul and Paul's name is Eucubian or Eucubian right that's right that's right there.

You I remember we're working on a couple of experiments when we met one of them was like doing tag lines.

For you say right. I don't know if you were using chat GPT at that point, but when did you first become aware of chat GPT and or generative AI for copy.

Good question. So I started using GPT to in the end of 2019 and we were using it to create startup ideas. So we were it was insanely creative, but it was really bad at telling the truth.

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