This is Things Policie, First Anna Counts, with your host, Steve Gold.

Welcome to the podcast, hit the interviews, active and retired police officers about their

most intense, bizarre and sometimes humorous moments on the job.

I'm your host Steve Gold, but this is, this is cops in the news for the week of, well

for the last three weeks actually, when we go back and we take a look at the stories

and involve police and some topical cultural stories, and we chat about them with either

Ken Roybel or a past guest and today is a past guest.

You will remember him.

He told some really great stories and actually he has a story that he hasn't, he told

me when he, when we stopped the interview last time.

I'm talking about Patrick O'Donnell, he's an author of such books as Field Training

and Probation, he's the podcast host of cops and writers and we're welcoming him back one

more time, Patrick.

Welcome to cops in the news brother.

Thank you so much for having me on.

My pleasure, I'm glad to have you, man, like I was telling before, we got a lot of great

comments about your last appearance and when we finished the interview, I was super happy

with it and then you told me that story, which we will tell later, that was just lunacy,

so I appreciate you taking the time to come back on the show.

Oh, thanks for having me, always, always up for something like this.

How are things going on, cops and writers?

Things are going well, I'm going to start book four in the Bruce Lee Blues series tomorrow,

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