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🗓️ 23 October 2025
⏱️ 55 minutes
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The Matts rail against the weaponisation of the law against people who are merely grossly offensive. Where is the line? Who decides what is illegal and what is not? And have we all drifted into a society that can’t shrug off an insult? Also - Michael Wolff takes on Melania Trump; the best horror movies for Halloween; and the Boss is back in a new Springsteen documentary… is it any good? Enjoy!
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| 1:02.9 | Hello and happy Thursday. Happy Thursday one and all. How are you, Matt? I'm good. Well, |
| 1:07.0 | we promised me to enjoy on Tuesday. So we'll do our best to, you know, within the constraints of good taste. I had a good night last night at Pear's Morgan's book launch. I wish I could have been there. Couldn't, but it was a cast of thousands. It looks amazing. Joan Collins. Emily Maclis. I saw Emily had been there. It's for you. Richie Sunak, I can't believe, I was chatting to Rishi Sunak. |
| 1:28.1 | I can't believe how small he is. |
| 1:43.9 | He's a, he's a, he's a nice, very nice. He's got a new column apparently in the Sunday Times. Is that right? I haven't seen that. He was asking around Ed Cummings and Amal Rajan and Andrew Moore how he should write his column in the Sunday Times. I think he's a man released personally. |
| 1:45.2 | I think he did, yeah, |
| 1:46.9 | released back into his wealth. |
| 1:46.9 | Yeah, but also... how he should write his column in the Sunday time. I think he's a man released, personally. I think he did, yeah, released back into his wealth. |
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