Hey everyone, welcome to session 121 of the Behavioral Observations podcast.

This episode features a follow-up interview with Dr. Russ Harris.

Russ and I recorded this episode about three or four weeks ago when the world's troubles centered around the challenges with COVID-19 related stay-at-home measures.

It's amazing how fast things have changed since then.

In light of the social upheaval, as people in the United States and beyond, come to grips with

tragic examples of racism and injustice, getting irritated by one's family members pales in

comparison in terms of personal suffering.

And I had briefly thought to shelve this podcast episode in light of this contrast.

But the more I thought about it, I believe that the suggestions and thoughts that Rush shared on this episode will be helpful nonetheless.

During our conversation, I decided to open up a bit and really share some

things that were bothering me at the time of the recording. I did so not to cry, woe, is me,

but rather to mirror some of the challenges and frustrations that many of my friends and

colleagues have shared with me, all in the service of giving Russ some material work with,

as it were. So I hope you find that

helpful. And speaking of, Russ actually puts me on the spot and walks me through some specific

exercises. He was also kind enough to share with me additional guided exercises, the dropping

anchor one in particular, one of which I'll play at the very

end of this episode, so you want to stick around through the end. These exercises are

available for download, so you can go to the show notes of this episode, and I'll have

links available to them there. Along the way, Russ fielded a few listener questions.

And in the process, we talked for a little bit about helping kids get back to school in the fall,

or I guess springtime if you're in Australia like Russ is.

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