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The Brian Lehrer Show

COP28 Winds Down (Maybe)

The Brian Lehrer Show

WNYC

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4.61.5K Ratings

🗓️ 12 December 2023

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Nina Lakhani, senior climate justice reporter at The Guardian U.S., breaks down the latest from the 2023 United Nations Climate Change Conference (COP28) in Dubai, where a new draft of the core agreement removed a call to phase out fossil fuels.

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0:00.0

It's the Brian Lara Show on WNC.

0:03.0

Good morning everyone.

0:09.0

It's the Brian Lara Show on WNC. Good morning everyone.

0:14.0

We begin today with our climate story of the week, which we've been doing every Tuesday on the show all this year.

0:19.7

Today it's our lead as it's the final day of the COP28 Climate Summit in Dubai, which some of you

0:26.1

were just hearing about on the BBC, which has been embroiled since our coverage of it

0:30.7

last Tuesday in a debate among the nation's delegates whether to include

0:34.5

a total phase-out of fossil fuels in the language of its closing statement.

0:39.6

Hopefully we'll find out from our guests live from Dubai in a minute how it's turning out.

0:45.1

But to remind you of the essential conflict that's been dominating headlines from COP28,

0:50.7

former Vice President Al Gore, who's made climate his central focus since leaving office in 2001,

0:57.0

was on CNN State of the Union on Sunday,

1:00.0

astonished at the conflict of interest he sees that was baked into this conference by having

1:05.8

Sothan Ahmed Al-Jaber from the United Arab-Emeritz government and who runs their big oil company

1:11.6

as the conference president.

1:14.2

It's the appointment of the CEO of one of the biggest and least responsible oil

1:19.4

companies on the planet to be the head of the conference.

1:22.8

And here's the reason that's a direct conflict of interest, Jake.

1:26.4

He's charged by the UN with the responsibility of guiding the world toward a sharp phase down of these greenhouse gas emissions which

1:35.2

mainly come from burning fossil fuels but he's charged to by his sovereign and

1:42.2

the company that he heads with a massive expansion of fossil fuels.

1:47.2

They've got a plan to expand production of both oil and gas by an enormous amount starting the minute the gavel bangs to end this

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