COP28: What's the point of the COP?

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🗓️ 8 December 2023

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

On day 9 of the climate talks, what do the experts think?

As Simon Stiell, Executive Secretary of the UNFCC, said today, it’s go-time for governments at COP28 this week. To examine the latest stories Ed Crooks has assembled a panel of energy experts: regular Energy Gang guest Melissa Lott, who is Director of Columbia University’s Center on Global Energy Policy, Morgan Bazilion, Director of the Payne Institute for Public Policy and professor of public policy at the Colorado School of Mines, and Julio Friedmann, Non-Resident Fellow at the Center on Global Energy Policy and CEO of Carbon Wrangler.

Together they debate the efficacy of an annual climate summit, the potential impacts of next year’s US and UK elections on global climate and energy policy and the latest key takeaways from the talks.

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome to the Energy Gang coming to you again from the COP28 climate talks in Dubai.
0:05.2	I'm Ed Crooks and I'm delighted to be joined by three of the world's leading energy experts
0:10.4	I think it's fair to say all gathered here together in the same room it's very nice to see
0:13.8	you all in person be able to have this discussion with you in real life as opposed to virtually
0:19.4	which is unfortunately the way we often have to do the energy gang. It's a great pleasure to welcome back Energy Gang regular, Melissa Lott, who is the Director of
0:26.2	Research at Columbia University's Center on Global Energy Policy and also a professor
0:31.1	at Columbia's Climate School. And also we have two newcomers.
0:33.8	Great pleasure to welcome them both to the Energy Gang today.
0:37.2	Julio Friedman, who is the chief scientist at Carbon Direct.
0:40.1	Thanks for all for joining us.
0:41.2	My pleasure.
0:41.9	And also Morgan Bazillion, who is the director of
0:44.0	the Payne Institute at the Colorado School of Mines. Thanks for coming.
0:48.3	Lovely. So here we are at the cop. We're on day nine talking on the afternoon of day nine cops
0:56.2	then more than two-thirds over Morgan you've only just arrived. Do you want to talk a
1:00.4	bit about that why are you Why are you coming so late?
1:03.0	What's the point of coming here when there's only four days left? I am putting it on the spot.
1:06.4	But I think it's not a crazy question because I think it actually reveals something pretty
1:10.1	interesting about the way that cops work. But go ahead, tell us about it.
1:13.8	Yeah, sure.
1:14.8	Well, first I'll say, you know, I'm a long-time listener, first-time caller
1:18.1	to the show, so that's something to start with.
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