Coordinating Inauthentic Behavior With Facebook’s Head of Security Policy
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🗓️ 1 July 2021
⏱️ 67 minutes
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Summary
This week on Arbiters of Truth, our podcast on our online information ecosystem, Evelyn Douek and Quinta Jurecic bring you an episode they’ve wanted to record for a while: a conversation with Nathaniel Gleicher, the head of security policy at Facebook. He runs the corner of Facebook that focuses on identifying and tackling threats aimed at the platform, including information operations.
They discussed a new report released by Nathaniel’s team on “The State of Influence Operations 2017-2020.” What kinds of trends is Facebook seeing? What is Nathaniel’s response to reports that Facebook is slower to act in taking down dangerous content outside the U.S.? What about the argument that Facebook is designed to encourage circulation of exactly the kind of incendiary content that Nathaniel is trying to get rid of?
And, of course, they argued over Facebook’s use of the term “coordinated inauthentic behavior” to describe what Nathaniel argues is a particularly troubling type of influence operation. How does Facebook define it? Does it mean what you think it means?
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. |
| 0:33.9 | So being able to say, when we enforce against these things, we're enforcing based on their |
| 0:37.8 | behavior, not based on the content and largely not based on who's behind them. |
| 0:42.3 | And I say largely they're only because if there are certain actors that repeatedly engage |
| 0:46.3 | in these campaigns, we remove them from our platform completely. |
| 0:49.7 | For example, the Russian-based IRA is not permitted on Facebook in any form. |
| 0:54.8 | But generally, we're focused on behavior and we are not focused on the content of these |
| 0:58.9 | campaigns and that's one of the key ways we're able to enforce against domestic operations |
| 1:03.2 | in addition to so. |
| 1:05.2 | I'm Quinta Jurassic and this is the LawFair podcast July 1st, 2021. |
| 1:12.6 | It's another episode of Arbitus of Truth, our podcast series and our online information |
| 1:17.6 | ecosystem. |
| 1:19.3 | This week, Evelyn Duick and I are glad to be able to bring you an episode we've wanted |
| 1:23.4 | to record for a while, a conversation with Nathaniel Glitcher, the head of security |
| 1:28.6 | policy at Facebook. |
| 1:30.8 | He runs the corner of Facebook that focuses on identifying and tackling threats aimed |
| 1:35.0 | at the platform, including information operations. |
| 1:39.3 | We discussed a new report released by Nathaniel's team on the state of influence operations |
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