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Rates & Barrels: A show about Baseball

Cooperstown Cases & Examining 'New' Starting Pitchers

Rates & Barrels: A show about Baseball

The Athletic

Fantasy Baseball, Mlb, Baseball, Sports

4.7873 Ratings

🗓️ 8 September 2021

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

Eno and DVR discuss current players (and a few recently retired ones) with Cooperstown worthy resumés and dig into the profiles of several pitchers that have recently received opportunities to hold big-league rotation spots -- including a new trio in Texas, Luis Gil, and Bailey Ober. 


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0:00.0

Welcome to Rates and Burials presented by Tops. Checkout Tops Project 70, celebrating 70 years of Tops baseball cards.

0:22.8

Derek Riper, Enosaris, here with you. It is Wednesday, September 8th. It is Hall of Fame induction

0:28.2

day in Cooperstown. Of course, that's not normally on a Wednesday, but Derek Jeter, Larry Walker,

0:33.7

being inducted today. So we're going to talk about some active players who we think could be headed for the Hall of Fame. There are a few shoe-ins, but there's some really fun cases kind of in the middle. There's some younger players who've put together an early career body of work that puts them on the sort of track you need to be on early in your career to have a chance to one day be a Hall of Famers. We'll talk about them as well.

0:59.3

We're digging to some of the newish pitchers in the pool. And a lot of questions came in on Twitter about different guys that have been debuting in recent weeks. We'll try to break them down

1:03.5

and get a sense for whether there's any short-term or long-term value to be had there. And we had a

1:09.6

question come in about what is on Enos FanGraphs dashboard.

1:14.0

So we're going to go inside the mind of Enosaurus. We're going to see how Eno works from the

1:19.6

inside. Terrifying, I know, but hopefully some entertaining things will learn about how Eno likes

1:26.2

to look at the information on fan graphs

1:27.9

when he pulls up player pages and leaderboards.

1:30.7

So we begin with the Hall of Fame conversation.

1:34.9

The Hall of Fame conversation, if you're talking about current players, you know,

1:37.9

it's like, well, there's Mike Trout.

1:40.1

He's a Hall of Fame already.

1:41.8

He could be done playing today and would get into the Hall of Fame in a few years. And we'd say, all right, Mike Trets at Hall of Famer, no argument there. Obviously, we're going to see him probably producing for another 10 plus years and piling up more and more war. And there'll be probably more of a debate of how does he stack up to the best Hall of Famers? Is he the best player of all time?

2:02.0

That is still, I think, on the table for him, health permitting.

2:05.8

But rather than digging into how great Mike Trout is, figuring out where the lines are

2:10.6

within these other groups.

2:12.0

Like, I think there's kind of a somewhat obvious late stage career type here.

2:16.6

Albert Poole's Miguel Cabrera, right?

2:18.6

I mean, two of the most feared hitters of the last 20 years, they are going to the

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