What is up? Welcome to Cooper stuff, everybody. Man, I'm pretty excited. I got a friend of

mine. We're going to talk about woke Jesus. Now this is almost a trigger term. That's

almost a trigger term. People in these safe spaces just from the name of this episode.

And you may need a, you know, what do you call those blankets, you know, through some

blanket, some poo bear blankies, some plush toys, some triggers, word spaces because we're

about to jump into some heavy stuff with my, my good friend Lucas Miles. The first of

all, Lucas is a pastor and author. He's got a show on Epic TV called Church in State.

Yada, yada, yada. We've had him on the show before. So first of all, what's up, Lucas?

How you doing?

Man, I'm doing good. I remember last time I was on the show was basically like the first

time we had kind of met like just digitally. And I think about, you know, like kind of

where we've been since then. And you know, getting to know you and your wife have just

been a, it's been a tremendous joy for Chrissy and I and any, and let me just say to your

audience, anybody out there that watches John and goes, is this guy the real deal? Let

me just say he is the real deal. And so John, it's an honor to be back on.

Well, that's very kind. Thank you, Lucas. Yes, it's been really cool. A couple of years.

We've been, we've been through the, you say, where we've been, we've been through the

12 circles and we're still headed through, you know, through Dante's, whatever.

Yeah, for sure. It's felt like that a couple times, hasn't it? So man, what a weird, weird

time. But yeah, so, you know, you and we got to meet your wife, Chrissy at a show that

we did in Indiana, which is where you live, right?

Yes. Yeah. We got to hang out there and, and the National Religious Broadcasters, you

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