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The Business of Fashion Podcast

Convoy on How to Create Fashion Moments

The Business of Fashion Podcast

The Business of Fashion

Fashion & Beauty, Business, Arts

4.6770 Ratings

🗓️ 9 August 2024

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Creative directors and brand strategists Juan Costa Paz and Nordine Benotmane, who founded Paris-based creative agency Convoy in 2012, are paid to think outside the box for clients from Nike  to Louis Vuitton. 


“We care about having conversations outside of the fashion echo chamber,” said Costa Paz. “I like to create tension, even if people don't like things, because I do think that it's good to try to create the conversation,” added Benotmane. 


This week on The BoF Podcast, Costa Paz and Benotmane join BoF founder and editor-in-chief Imran Amed to discuss how they do it and their paths to fashion.


Key insights:


  • Convoy’s Costa Paz and Benotmane came to fashion from the worlds of music and cinema, respectively, and that’s a good thing. “The fact that both Nordine and I come from different spaces, we don't tend to abide by the rules of what makes a fashion moment,” said Costa Paz. “We're a little bit kamikaze in the way that we try to not think as the brand wants us to think,” added Benotmane.


  • Over the years, Convoy has produced content around fashion shows for brands like Miu Miu, Vuitton and Balmain. Describing these moments as, “like going to war”, Paz Costa believes there is an element of both care and challenge that is required when realising ambitious ideas with clients. “Sometimes you just need to hold hands with your clients and jump together into the void. I think that we usually land very well when there is communication and transparency.”


  • Convoy also leads creative direction for Condé Nast’s Vogue World, which kicked off Paris Couture Week with a pre-Olympics sports-themed extravaganza. “This is a new way of seeing media,” said Benotmane. At the same time, he recognises there is always still space to explore. “Maybe this is a new way of doing the media, but we could have told stories of the athletes, the way they prepare for the competition, their relationship to fashion, a lot of things that we maybe didn't manage to do this time because it's still a new project and it's very ambitious.” 


  • Offering advice for up-and-coming creatives, Benotmane said: “Don't be scared, do it your own way.” Added Costa Paz: “Being a little bit punk also doesn't hurt.”


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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, this is Imran Ahmed, founder and CEO of the Business of Fashion.

0:08.2

Welcome to the Bof podcast. It's Friday, August 9th. Creative directors Juan Costa Paz and

0:15.1

Nordine Ben Otman, who founded the Paris-based Creative Agency Convoy in 2012, are paid to think outside the box for clients from Nike to Louis Vuitton.

0:25.6

They were responsible for the high-energy upsurge of Canso's rebrand under Carol Lim and Humberto Leon,

0:33.6

and more recently for the launch of Martine Rose's football-inspired collection with Nike, where they created a spoof sports TV channel.

0:42.8

Continually pushing the parameters of how to communicate a creative message, Juan and Nordine are always focused on keeping their audience at the forefront and not following strict brand codes.

0:54.6

We really do care about audiences and we really do care about having conversations

0:58.6

outside of the fashion echo chamber.

1:01.1

We're like a little bit kamikaze in the way that we're trying to not think as the brand

1:07.1

want us to think.

1:09.1

This week on the BOF podcast, I'm excited to share this conversation with Juan and Nordine,

1:14.6

tracing their careers from film and music right to the heart of the fashion industry.

1:19.6

Here's Juan Costa Paz and Nordine Ben Otman on the B.O.F. podcast.

1:26.6

Juan Costa Paz, Nordine-Othman, welcome to the BOF podcast.

1:33.2

It is a pleasure to chat with you both.

1:37.0

Tell me first where you are in the world today.

1:40.1

Are you both in Paris?

1:41.4

I'm in Switzerland right now.

1:42.7

I'm in Seals Maria in holidays with my family.

1:45.7

I just came back for Kyrgyzstan on the trekking in the mountain,

1:49.1

and now I'm in South of France in Ardash.

1:51.7

So you're both avoiding the Olympics?

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