Convincing Mark Kermode Pirates of the Caribbean is Good
Kermode on Film
HLA Agency
4.4 • 913 Ratings
🗓️ 17 March 2026
⏱️ 33 minutes
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Summary
It was the Oscars.
But Mark and Jack didn't want to talk about the Oscars.
Instead, Jack convinces Mark that The Pirates of the Caribbean is actually Good.
With thanks to Richard Gay, and to The Sun Pub in London's Drury Lane.
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, this is Mark Kermode. Thanks, downloading this Kermode on film podcast. Or if you're watching us on the YouTube channel, welcome back to the lavish surroundings of the Sun Pub in the heart of London's busy West End, where once again we're very grateful to the Sun for giving us this room. The pub's actually closed. |
| 0:16.9 | Yeah, they've opened it just for us. Especially for us to sit here and talk rubbish. Jack, what particular brand of rubbish are we talking about today? |
| 0:24.6 | Jack Howard in Sydney, you know this anyway. |
| 0:26.6 | Yeah, sure. |
| 0:27.6 | We're going to be talking about the Oscars, because we're recording this on Monday, and the Oscars were last night. |
| 0:33.6 | But do you even care? |
| 0:34.6 | Can you remember? |
| 0:35.6 | Can you remember what one? |
| 0:36.6 | No one can. As we've said before, that's the whole |
| 0:39.3 | thing. The way Oscars work, 24 hours later, it's yesterday's news. So we don't want to talk about it |
| 0:45.4 | because it's been talked about to death and who cares. So we've decided we want to talk about |
| 0:49.6 | good luck, have fun, don't die, which is probably a film that most of you haven't seen, |
| 0:54.0 | but we're interested in talking about the idea of directors that helmed huge blockbuster movies |
| 0:58.8 | and then moving on to small independent films. |
| 1:02.0 | And what does that mean? |
| 1:04.3 | What does that mean? |
| 1:07.8 | So I want to begin by saying it's the Monday after the Oscar Sunday night, okay? And we had two things that we might be talking about. One of them we said was let's talk about the Oscars. But by the time you're listening to this, it'll be Tuesday. And my theory is that by Tuesday, everyone's forgotten. No one cares anymore. We've had this conversation before, but it's like, it's like, if we say, who won the Oscar last year, who won one bus picture? And everyone goes, I can't remember because it's gone really quickly. We were having this conversation before we started recording. And you were like, who won Best Actor last year? And I paused and I still haven't thought about who was. Adrian Brody. It was Adrian Brody. And the only reason I remember it is because just before we started recording, Jack said, |
| 1:44.8 | I'm just going to take this bit of chewing gum out. And I went like Adrian Brody. And that's what reminded me that he won the thing. How could we forget with the longest Oscar speech? The longest, most boring Oscar speech in the whole thing. But there is an Oscar element to the conversation which we're about to have. Okay. Which is about the film, good luck, have fun, don't die. |
| 2:02.4 | Okay? |
| 2:03.1 | That is what it's called. |
| 2:03.8 | It is called that. |
| 2:04.4 | It is the correct title. Yeah. So, um, I'm not a fan of good luck, have fun, don't die. And I have a very particular reason for that. But one of the films that it has been compared to, not least by me, is everything everywhere all at once. |
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