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WSJ Opinion: Free Expression

Conviction Politics

WSJ Opinion: Free Expression

Gerard Baker, Editor at Large, The Wall Street Journal

Society & Culture, News

4.6591 Ratings

🗓️ 4 June 2024

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

After Donald Trump’s conviction being on 34 felony counts of falsification of business records and as his sentence looms just ahead of the Republican National Convention, U.S. politics are deeper into uncharted territory. What might happen next? On this episode of the Free Expression podcast, former federal prosecutor and Trump lawyer James Trusty takes Gerry Baker through all the legal steps the former president will go through, including the appeals process. He explains why Mr. Trump has good reason to expect success but also expressed concern about the larger prospects for equal and independent justice in an age of partisan politics and ‘lawfare.’ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:17.1

From the opinion pages of the Wall Street Journal, this is Free Expression with Jerry Baker.

0:24.1

Hello and welcome to Free Expression from the Wall Street Journal.

0:26.7

I'm Jerry Baker, editor-at-large of the journal.

0:29.2

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0:34.5

This week, a conviction politician.

0:39.0

Just in case you may somehow have been asleep and missed the events of the last few days, last week a former and potentially future

0:44.8

president of the United States was convicted by a New York jury on 34 felony counts.

0:49.4

Next month, just days before he's due to be formally nominated as the Republican presidential

0:53.4

candidate for the

0:54.7

election in November, Donald Trump will be sentenced by a New York judge. Now, while a custodial sentence

1:01.4

will be just about unprecedented for this kind of crime, committed as it was by a first offender,

1:06.8

precedent really has very little meaning or relevance in this case, or indeed in these extraordinary political and judicial times.

1:15.1

We are indeed in unfamiliar territory. In fact, the terrain we're in politically is so new it makes the land Lewis and Clark found themselves in look like it was served by the regularly scheduled public transportation services.

1:27.1

Still, as intrepid

1:28.1

explorers here at the journal, it's our job to try to map out the path ahead. So what does happen

1:32.9

next? What will Trump's sentencing look like? Is it possible he could face a prison term or some other

1:37.7

punishment? Trump's lawyers have said he'll appeal the verdict, of course. How will that play out?

1:42.7

What in the conduct of the trial might constitute reversible

1:45.8

error for a state appeals court to overturn the verdict? And could it go all the way to the Supreme

1:51.6

Court? Could it indeed go to the Supreme Court first bypassing the New York process? And when,

1:57.6

on a what time scale will all this play out? Well, so many questions, I'm fortunate to have

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