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Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

Convicted Killer Susan Smith's Shocking Prison Texts

Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

iHeartPodcasts and CrimeOnline

News, True Crime

4.28.1K Ratings

🗓️ 28 September 2025

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Thirty years after Susan Smith drove her car into a lake with her two sons strapped in their car seats, she sought parole. A parole board denied her request, and a suitor later revealed that Smith had dreamed of appearing on “Dancing with the Stars.” She is reportedly “devastated” that her bid for parole failed. Now we learn from shocking texts that Smith is being sent money by multiple men with whom she is in contact from behind bars. 

After high school, Susan Leigh Vaughan married David Smith. They had two sons, but the marriage faltered despite the children. The couple separated multiple times. During one separation, Susan began dating Tom Findlay, the single son of a wealthy mill owner. Smith imagined a future with Findlay until she received a "Dear John" letter from him, stating he did not want an instant family.

On the night of October 25, Susan Smith knocked on the door of a house near John D. Long Lake. Hysterical, she told the man who answered to call the police. She claimed an armed Black man had carjacked her at a red light, with her two boys—3-year-old Michael and 14-month-old Alex—still in the car. For days, Susan repeated increasingly inconsistent versions of the carjacking story.

Eventually, Smith confessed. There had been no carjacker. Feeling desperate, alone, and suicidal, she had taken her sons for a drive. At John D. Long Lake, she put the car in neutral, jumped out, and watched as it sank. Scuba divers later found the vehicle with the boys still strapped in their seats.

Since her conviction and incarceration, tabloid reports have alleged that Smith told prison investigators about four sexual encounters with Lieutenant Houston Cagle, a supervisor at South Carolina’s Women’s Correctional Institution. 

Cagle admitted to having sex with Smith and another inmate. In August 2000, he was charged with the offenses, pleaded guilty, and served three months in jail. Captain Alfred Rowe also pleaded guilty to having sex with Smith and received five years of probation.

Over the years, several men have written to Smith, fueling her hopes for a life beyond prison.

Joining Nancy Grace today:

  • Tara Malek – Boise, ID, Attorney & Co-owner of Smith + Malek; Former State and Federal Prosecutor; Twitter: @smith_malek
  • Dr. Bethany Marshall – Psychoanalyst (Beverly Hills, CA); Instagram & TikTok: drbethanymarshall; Twitter: @DrBethanyLive 
  • Chris McDonough – Director At the Cold Case Foundation, Former Homicide Detective; Host of YouTube channel: “The Interview Room”
  • JoScott Morgan – Professor of Forensics: Jacksonville State University; Author, “Blood Beneath My Feet;” Host: “Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan;" Twitter: @JoScottForensic 
  • Dave Mack - CrimeOnline Investigative Reporter

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcript

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0:00.0

This is an IHeart podcast.

0:04.8

Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

0:11.0

In the last days, shocking and let me say disgusting, jail text of baby killer mom, Susan Smith.

0:20.5

Remember her? She drowned her two children. This woman, it never

0:25.5

ends with her. I'm Nancy Grace. This is crime stories. I want to thank you for being with us.

0:31.6

Killer mom Susan Smith, who's around her two little boys in South Carolina, is raking in, I can't believe this.

0:41.0

I had to go to, let's see, four years of undergrad, three years of law school, and three years

0:45.5

of graduate law school at NYU, that's four plus three, that's ten years to make a living.

0:53.4

This woman is raking in thousands of dollars from love-lorn men,

0:58.7

promising she will, quote, be with them. I think we all know what that means. When she ever gets out

1:04.8

of prison, yes, yes, transcripts have been obtained of hundreds of voice and text messages.

1:13.1

Smith has traded with lovesick men while she's behind bars.

1:20.8

She gets and sends around 20 texts a day spending hours talking on the phone to love sick guys who engage in sex talk

1:35.1

with her.

1:36.8

And these guys range from age 27.

1:40.5

What?

1:40.9

Go go go find a young woman your own age for Pete's sake.

1:45.1

27 and mid-60s.

1:47.7

They send money to her prison account.

1:50.6

And she texts about how she wants to be with them and what she wants to do to them when she gets out.

1:57.2

Okay, reality check.

1:59.6

This is who Susan Smith really is. Yes, ma'am, love. That is a lady. He's come up, reality check. This is who Susan Smith really is.

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