A better starting question isn't what should I do to manage this behavior but what's going on?

What's going on in my heart? What's going on in the heart of my child? Because those are the things that really determine the end

result of the discipline. Lynn Jackson and her husband Jim are with us again today

on Focus on the Family and your host is Focus President and author Jim Daly, I'm John Fuller.

John, last time we started a great conversation about parenting, I think it touched every

parent's heart that was listening and I hope you today will stick with us because we're going to get back to some very fundamental things that will transform. I think the way that you parent and I think produce the outcome that you're looking for and that is to launch your children at 18

healthy and in a good place spiritually and that starts with modeling and our guest

Jim and Lynn Jackson have written this wonderful book, this tool, discipline that

connects with your child's heart, not their seat.

And I like that.

You could have easily put that other one in there.

We'd all be saying yes, that's right, Jim and Lynn.

But let me just welcome you back to Focus.

It's great to have you back.

We covered last time four concepts that you have applied

and that you've captured in your book.

Your kids need to feel that they are safe with you as a parent,

that you love them no matter what as a parent.

Now some people are already going, okay, strike out,

strike out, don't worry, we're going to equip you to do better,

and that's the key.

Third, you're called and capable as you express to your child God's gifting in their lives

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