Good morning, parish orphans and retrogrades. Today I come to you live with a special guest,

Mr. Jesse Romero, and we will be talking about how to convert or revert your loved ones. It's a big

issue. It sounds like a boring apologetical sort of Catholic evangelical show. All that's right, aside from the

fact that it's boring. It's not boring at all. It's actually one of the topics nearest and dearest

to our hearts if we can talk about it without reverting to platitudes. That's not the kind of

reversion we want. Anyway, Mr. Jesse Romero, my good

friend is here with me and you all know him. He needs no introduction. What's up, Jesse?

Hey, what's up, Tim? And hi, Steph. How are you? I hear you in the background there.

Doing well. Yeah, man, we're going to be, we need to get together for dinner with you and Anita again

very soon.

Absolutely.

I think I got some stuff near you.

I'm looking at my calendar.

So I'm going to have to give you a call when I'm running your neck of the woods.

Yes, sir.

Look, man, here's the thing.

There's a call.

I want to talk to you about converting and reverting your family and friends.

Not just yours, but all of our family and friends.

Because it's a different game.

I mean, it's the same end game, but it's a totally different set of tactics to revert or

convert a fallen away family member or friend or a Protestant family member or friend. It's way,

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