Conversion Therapy
Freethought Radio
Freedom From Religion Foundation
4.6 • 578 Ratings
🗓️ 2 April 2026
⏱️ 50 minutes
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Summary
Attorney Sam Grover describes FFRF's court victory demanding the removal of the Ten Commandments from the Arkansas capitol. Then, activist Lucas F. W. Wilson, a survivor of "conversion therapy," discusses his book "Shame-Sex Attraction: Survivors' Stories of Conversion Therapy."
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