Conversations with Tom | Coleman Hughes and What it Will Take to Actually Address Racism

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🗓️ 23 July 2020

⏱️ 123 minutes

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Summary

Righteous indignation is personally intoxicating, culturally powerful and incredibly motivating. It also doesn’t necessarily align with reality, as shown by the fact that opposite sides of many issues are often equally righteous and equally angry. So how do we move past righteous indignation to look at problems like racism in terms of realistic solutions and honest tradeoffs? On this episode of Conversations with Tom, the brilliant young intellectual Coleman Hughes discusses the ways that our national debate about race has gone far off the rails. He also points out real-world solutions to some smaller problems that have actually worked, and strongly advocates that we adopt a more facts-based mindset on the bigger issues. This episode is brought to you by: Tresta: Start your free 30-day trial at tresta.com/impact Indeed: Go to Indeed.com/IMPACT for a FREE $75 credit to boost your job post. PATLive: Get 15% off their regularly listed rates. Call 866-708-2507 and mention this podcast. For more information, visit PATLive.com SHOW NOTES: Coleman and Tom discuss music and the music industry [0:36] Coleman describes the experience of taking online classes [2:24] Tom and Coleman discuss social distancing, COVID-19 and authority [5:04] Coleman talks about why he would prefer Obama to be president currently [9:48] Coleman discusses the current state of racial conversations [18:00] Coleman explains why he is willing to wade into the debates about race [22:58] Almost anyone who has had a hard life and become successful doesn’t play victim [29:10] Coleman says the cultural zeitgeist on race is getting things deeply wrong [35:45] Coleman asks why people need to feel that they are victims of racism [38:29] One of the worst things about growing up poor is not having actual role models [47:17] What if creating wealth is more important than political power? [51:17] Righteous indignation feels incredible, but it cannot be trusted [59:48] Coleman explains why he actually favors dismantling police over defunding police [1:04:41] Coleman describes ways to get police out of certain work while still reducing crime [1:12:26] Coleman and Tom discuss whether there is a culture of murder [1:17:50] How are we going to improve the quality of police forces? [1:23:26] Coleman explains why sometimes he has answers, and other times he doesn’t [1:28:29] Coleman argues against the connection between capitalism and racism [1:34:26] Why do so many people take the same side on wildly disparate issues? [1:44:07] Some people just aren’t swayed by logic, so what should be done? [1:50:49] Coleman’s approach to music is completely intuitive [1:55:15] FOLLOW COLEMAN: WEBSITE: https://colemanhughes.org/ INSTAGRAM: instagram.com/coleman_hughes/ FACEBOOK: facebook.com/colemancruzhughes1/ TWITTER: twitter.com/coldxman

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0:00.0	What is up everybody? Welcome to another episode of Conversations with Tom. I am here with
0:08.2	Coleman Hughes. Coleman, thank you so much for joining me, man. Glad to be here.
0:14.2	So I think I first found you on Sam Harris' podcast and then you introduced me to Thomas
0:21.6	Chatterton Williams, who I recently had on the show, who was amazing. So thank you so
0:26.4	much for that intro. He's super fascinating, dude. And then in researching you, I came
0:31.4	across what you're doing as Cold Man, which I was very impressed by. Are you still
0:37.4	hard into the music scene? Yeah, I still am. I mean, unfortunately right now there is
0:42.2	no music scene, but at least no, no music scene in person. But yeah, I'm still very much
0:49.1	producing music in my free time and to be released at some point. Do you see music as
0:57.0	more of an in-person thing? These days, you know, thinking about the creation of music,
1:02.4	I would think this is kind of a cool period where if you're able to record, you know,
1:06.5	at your apartment or something, that you could go pretty hard on the music. Do you produce
1:10.8	or do you just rap? Produce, mix, rap, all of it. So for you though, is there something
1:19.8	big missing in that you're not able to perform in front of a crowd? Well, yes and no.
1:25.4	Definitely performing in front of a crowd is the most exciting thing ever. But 95% of
1:32.5	the time that you you're working as a musician in my context, it's alone because I'm making
1:39.7	beats by myself, tweaking mixes or mastering songs by myself, recording vocals by myself.
1:46.3	So that's something I can completely do alone and I have been during COVID and it's I
1:50.6	think I and a lot of other musicians I know feel like it's kind of a godsend to be in a
1:57.6	profession where you can do a lot by yourself and you know, you don't go crazy, stir crazy
2:03.4	at home all day. You know, what have comedians been up to? You know, like their whole craft
2:11.1	is like based on testing jokes out in front of a crowd because they almost never know which
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