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DON TONY AND KEVIN CASTLE SHOW

Conversations: With Jon Draper And Don Tony

DON TONY AND KEVIN CASTLE SHOW

DTD Entertainment LLC

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4 • 782 Ratings

🗓️ 10 October 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Welcome to a very special and deeply personal conversation between two powerful voices in wrestling podcasting: Don Tony and Jon Draper. This is the first time both are back since the untimely passing of Kevin Castle. A voice that resonated with so many, leaving a lasting impact on the wrestling community that will never be forgotten. A brief synopsis is listed below.

DT and Jon reflect on the passing of Kevin but also discuss a wide array of topics relevant within pro wrestling and beyond. Unfiltered talk about WWE creative mess and why TKO will eventually sell WWE to Saudi Arabia. The deliberate reason AEW remains stuck in the mud. Reaction to ICE ads airing during WWE and AEW wrestling programming. Selective and sometimes fake outrage amongst the wrestling community (including some wrestlers themselves). And so much more. 

Make sure to check out Jon Draper on the Spitball Media Podcast available on YouTube and Patreon. We hope you enjoy this unfiltered conversation and hope to do this again in the near future.

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The Don Tony Show: Wrestling News Update 10/8/25

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The Don Tony Show / WWE RAW Post Show 10/6/25

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Sit-Down with Don Tony 10/5/25

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This Week In Wrestling History (Season 3 Week 40: 10/1 – 10/7)

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REMEMBERING KEVIN CASTLE 🙏🏼❤️

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CELEBRATE 20 YEARS OF DON TONY AND KEVIN CASTLE WITH THE DTKC 20 YEAR ANNIVERSARY SHIRT!

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DON TONY AND KEVIN CASTLE *PATREON* AND *YOUTUBE CHANNEL MEMBERSHIPS:

You can send additional support for Don Tony And Kevin Castle and help grow the brand, by becoming a member of DT/KC PATREON and/or YOUTUBE CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP FAMILY. Don Tony and Kevin Castle's PATREON has been around for over seven years! You can access all seven years of BONUS CONTENT right now including:

  • Ad-Free episodes of all of the weekly Non-Patreon shows
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  • 2000+ hours of Patreon exclusive shows never released publicly! (Over 8 Years of Patreon Exclusive Content!)

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CHECK OUT OUR CONTENT ACROSS THESE PLATFORMS:

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WEEKLY SHOW SCHEDULE (UPDATED: APRIL 2025):

  • WWE RAW RECAP AND WRESTLING NEWS REPORT: LIVE EVERY MONDAY NIGHT at 10:45PM ET after WWE RAW on DTKCDiscord.com
  • PRO WRESTLING NEWS UPDATES: Posted every WEDNESDAYS at DonTony.com (and across all audio platforms)
  • DT VIPATREON CHRONICLES: Patreon Exclusive Show hosted by Don Tony LIVE EVERY THURSDAY at 8:30PM on DTKC Patreon Channel (https://www.patreon.com/dontony)
  • THIS WEEK IN WRESTLING HISTORY: Posted every FRIDAY at DonTony.com (and across all audio platforms)
  • PRO WRESTLING NEWS UPDATES: Posted every SATURDAYS at DonTony.com (and across all audio platforms)
  • THE SIT-DOWN w/DON TONY: VIDEO PODCAST hosted by Don Tony LIVE EVERY SUNDAY at 8PM on YouTube (www.YouTube.com/DonTony)
  • WWE/AEW PPV RECAP/REVIEW: (Posted MONDAY NIGHTS)

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey, what's up, everybody? It is Sunday, October 5th, 2025. I want to welcome you.

0:08.6

You know what this episode is all about. So I am not alone. I am joined along with.

0:16.2

This is John Draper. Hello, everybody. What's up, John? What's going on? I, I, listen, it's a, it's a shame that the last time that we talked was under such sad,

0:28.7

you know, you know, just sad set of circumstances. I mean, just tragic.

0:34.7

Oh, sure. And it was in person. You know, we were together in person there in Brooklyn, on a very rough, rough day, as you know, because you were there. It was a part of a, you know, it was a part of a, you know, it was a part of your day. You know, I, I, I know, I, I know, we haven't talked much since then. And, you know, we, we, we did a, an episode that night, yourself, myself, and Mish.

0:57.3

And it was very raw and it was very emotional. I think it covered all different, you know,

1:05.4

sides of the spectrum. But one thing was for sure, or two things. Number one, it was 100% honest and it was 100% out of love. Oh, yeah, for sure. And it was very, like, it felt necessary. Yes. Like, I felt like, like when I communicated with you earlier that day, like I said, I just think me, you and Mish need to talk to people. Like, we just have to, You know, and it was like, like, we didn't have a choice. Like, you know, like none of us wanted to do it, but none of us doubted the responsibility of doing it. Like, it was very hard. I mean, I heard the pain in your voice. I heard the pain in Mish's voice. You know, it was painful, but it felt like it was an obligation

1:46.4

to the people who have been so loyal to you.

1:49.9

The soup, to Kevin, to me, you know, that comes with the price, I think, of honesty and

1:57.8

humility, like in the face of something so sad and so upsetting to, as you know,

2:04.2

like, it's so profoundly upsetting to listeners.

2:07.5

I mean, it just had such a visceral impact on so many listeners.

2:15.4

I'll tell you this much.

2:17.5

I mean, obviously, we recorded that only hours after what happened.

2:22.8

But, you know, literally hours, yeah.

2:24.1

One thing I, one thing I definitely want to tell you before anything.

2:27.2

And, and I don't exaggerate.

2:29.3

I don't, you know, try to say things just to make people feel better.

2:32.4

But I will tell you a couple of things.

2:33.8

Number one, with what happened with Kev, it has changed my life in a very positive way because it scared

2:44.2

me straight to address health issues much sooner. I'm going in for, you know, just like colonoscopy, endoscopy.

2:54.0

I'm getting that on November 14th.

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