Hi, everyone. Hi, Jonathan.

Hello there.

It's Pesach. And you know what's nice about Pesach that even when we're semi on vacation,

I'm still bugging you. I'm still sort of calling in to say, how you're doing.

I'm like, you'll never be completely released and free. It could be like one of those little sort of movies in to say, how you're doing? I'm like, you'll never be completely

released and free. It could be like one of those little sort of movies where I'm hunting the

efficoman in the house and then I look behind some shells and there's your needs face going,

hi, I've just sent you a WhatsApp. Why? I've been waiting. Why did you not answer?

Yeah, that does sound like me a little bit.

We could recreate that vibe. It is the holiday season.

And I always used to use the Pesach period for catching up on reading that kind of thing,

books that had just been left by the bedside for months. Suddenly there was a bit of clear time.

And so in that spirit, I think this is a

good time for people to catch up on things they might have missed, but we know they would love.

So this is a conversation that we had with Yuval No Harari back in November. I think one of the

things that were so still sticking my head from that conversation

is the fact that what would, he said that in not a long period of time, about 200 years,

maybe a little bit more.

Humans will not exist in the way that we know them today, which is an interesting thing

to think about during Paso?

No, he's such an interesting guy because he's obviously a historian and he's brilliant about

the whole human past, but more and more he's thinking about where not just, you know,

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