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It's Unholy. I'm Jonathan Friedland of The Guardian in London. And know you're neat this week, because as many of you will know, it is the festival of Chavuot, which means we'll be back with a regular

brand-new episode of Unholy next week. For now, though, we thought we would share a conversation

we have enjoyed. It's with Friend of the Podcast, the brilliant novelist writer and teller

of short stories, Edgar Kerret. This one from a few weeks back. We hope you

enjoy it as much as we did. Here's our conversation with Edgar Kerret. This is Edgar Kerat about

himself in his own words. It's fair to say I'm an anxious person. It's fair to say a lot of

other things about me too, that I'm not relaxed and I'm a bit of a

coward, that I'm slightly paranoid, although anxious is a more polite word, and we're not here to

hurl insults. This is from his newsletter. Edgar Kerat is a superstar of the Israeli literary,

scene, writer, filmmaker, internationally published author. His work has been translated into

over four dozen languages. His stories are sad and funny and absurd and unforgettable. His work has been translated into over four dozen languages. His stories are

sad and funny and absurd and unforgettable. His exhibition about his mother called Inside

Out as being presented now in the Jewish Museum in Berlin. We'll hear his stories about her,

his thoughts about art, but in this country is pretty impossible not to start with politics.

So, Edgel, thank you so much for joining us today. Thank you for having me.

I mean, your need's right, really. It's the fate of any writer in Israel, I think, that every time

they speak to anybody, the first question is always, so what about the political... Forget the

stories you've written, the books you've written, what about the news? With the politics going on

now, though it does feel very intense, what's your view of it? What do you think of these

protests that have been filling the streets? What's happening, do you think? Well, I want to say

that, you know, I really love the time when they would need a writer or an artist to interpret reality because it was so complex and ambiguous.

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