May your mornings always be bright, your breakfast's worth waking up for,

and early starts always be smooth with Kerry gold butter,

may your pancakes always be fluffy and flavorful,

and buttery crumpets always go down a treat.

May your toast always be tasty, and your hollandaise always rich.

May your bagels always be warm warm and your moments always be golden.

Kerry gold. Naturally golden butter from grass-fed cows. The Hello, this is let's talk about Mitz, baby, and I am your host, Live.

And I am here with another conversation episode.

So back in, it was probably August, early September, Michaela and I sat down and recorded a ton of

conversations with loads of incredible people, which has worked out really well because as I'm

moving across the country, I'm realizing that when a person has ADHD and their apartment is completely packed up

slash everywhere all the time. And all you can think about is a ridiculously long distance drive.

It just turns out that like brains don't work very well. So I'm thrilled to have these

conversations that were already recorded for you all. And today's is something special. I spoke

with Cecily Bateman, who studies, I mean, lots of things that were utterly interesting, but their

main one for today's episode is disability in the ancient Roman world.

Spoilers slash trigger warning.

The ancient Roman world had very, very, like, constructed.

There's a lot of enslavement.

You can see what I mean about the brain that's my

trigger where there's an enormous amount of talking about enslaved people i'm in the roman world

because it's rome and um you know they just made a real habit out of it but we had an absolutely

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